Mormon “Rap” and the Destruction of White, Western, Mormon Culture

Update (3.19.17)

“Let’s face it. Hip-hop culture deadens the drive toward civility and legitimizes backwardness. It is high time the general public comes to terms with the social damage it perpetuates. If not, we can all count on yet another inner-city generation suffering from wasted potential.” – Jeffrey Hicks, member of national advisory council of the black leadership network Project 21. 

When I wrote this blog I was used to a small readership, but since this post has gone viral I decide to add some additional citations for the destruction rap music causes to culture. I’ve added two here in the front and added links in the highlighted text. I have also added quotes from Prophet Benson’s 1971 General Conference talk “Satan’s Thrust.” These quotes are in bold lettering, otherwise I have left the text as it was originally published. 

Geraldo Rivera: Hip-Hop Is ‘Very Destructive Culturally’
“Hip-hop has done more damage to black and brown people than racism in the last 10 years,” talk show host tells HuffPost Live

Rap and Hip Hop: A legitimate music genre or self destructive noise?

If you want to see the future of Mormonism look no further than the rapper James the Mormon. Just as inner city Chicago used to be full of hard working, Christian, Poles, Germans and Irish but is now overrun with black, ghetto culture, it seems Mormonism and Utah are the next target for cultural destruction and what’s worse, the Mormons themselves are welcoming it.

“The devil-inspired destructive forces are present in our literature, in our art, in the movies, on the radio, in our dress, in our dances, on the TV screen, and even in our modern, so-called popular music. Satan uses many tools to weaken and destroy the home and family and especially our young people. Today, as never before, it seems the devil’s thrust is directed at our youth.”

About a year or so ago I heard about this rapper James the Mormon. I heard he had put out a rap/hip hop album and that many famous Mormons, such as Al Fox, were featured in his video. While he is clear that he is not a religious singer, he does not sing about his faith, Mormons readily accepted James as if he were the Mormon version of Christian rock, only edgier. After being raised in a system which taught them that all things white and western were evil and boring, white Mormons were thrilled they could throw their hands in the air like they just don’t care and get their groove on to secular music with none of the guilt. Truly this would finally make white Mormons “cool” to all those non whites they desperately seek approval from.

This would certainly prove their street cred.

I only saw a preview of the video at first. I posted about it on Facebook, how we need to watch our cultural influences and while James may not cuss or rap about sex (at least not yet) it was promoting violent, inner city thug culture and it’s lack of traditional values. It was also erasing our strong Mormon musical culture. My friends insisted it was just for fun and no harm would come from it.

“Music creates atmosphere. Atmosphere creates environment. Environment influences behavior. What are the mechanics of this process?”

I wonder if inner city Chicago thought their first few thugs with sagging pants and rap music were “fun” and “colorful?”
Flash forward to last Sunday, I’m sitting in church when I notice a poster for an upcoming Mormon Youth event. Two church elders were scheduled to speak, that sounds right, but what was this? Performing at this conference was James the Mormon? Seriously? This had gone from fringe, Mormon, funzies to a church SPONSORED performer in less than a year? I was appalled.

“The Church must not compromise standards before popular demands.”
I asked my 13 year old if he had heard about this. He had been his usual dreamy self and not thought to register. “I don’t think you should go.” I cautioned. He agreed.

“All is not well in Zion. The inspired Book of Mormon prophets saw this day and, as watchmen on the towers, issued grave warnings. I quote:

“For behold, at that day shall he [the devil] rage in the hearts of the children of men, and stir them up to anger against that which is good.

“And others will he pacify, and lull them away into carnal security, that they will say: All is well in Zion; yea, Zion prospereth, all is well—and thus the devil cheateth their souls, and leadeth them away carefully down to hell.

“And behold, others he flattereth away, and telleth them there is no hell; and he saith unto them: I am no devil, for there is none—and thus he whispereth in their ears, until he grasps them with his awful chains, from whence there is no deliverance. …

“Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!

“Wo be unto him that crieth: All is well!

“Yea, wo be unto him that hearkeneth unto the precepts of men, and denieth the power of God, and the gift of the Holy Ghost!” (2 Ne. 28:20–22, 24–26.)”

At this point I watched the full video. Oh my, it was worse than I ever imagined…

Later I decided to look this guy up. Did his influence go beyond rap music to promotion of bad ideas? Oh my, yes! A quick peak at his Twitter feed showed a man, whom while I believe him to be sincere in his faith, is a horrific influence for the Mormon community and youth.

“There must needs be opposition in all things. Freedom of choice is a God-given eternal principle. To escape Satan’s snares and booby traps by following the Lord is our assignment. It is not an easy one.”

He promotes Beyoncé to the youth saying she “runs the world” and “thank you for all that you do.” And what is it that Beyoncé does for our culture? She promotes this…

(Caution, these lyrics are dirty and unedited)

Who wants their child, or even adult for that matter, to idolize a rapper who idolizes this woman?

“Freedom, a word of noble tradition, is a favorite confuser. Riots, bombings, arson, and killings are committed in the name of freedom. Obscenities test the freedom of speech. Pornography, drugs, and immorality are claimed to be manifestations of personal freedom, along with miniskirts and nudity. License and anarchy are products of these false freedoms.”

He regularly retweets an account called Jack the Jew which takes cheap shots at the President, calling him dumb and incompetent. A very bad civic role model for youth.

He is pro refugee (actually, economic migrants) and regularly tweets in support of bringing more refugees into our country despite the increase in terrorism, crime, rape, murder and disease.

He regularly tweets about his support of lowering modesty standards for women in the church urging them to show more skin and for other people not to judge this even though Mormon modesty standards are specifically tied to what the Lord has directly asked of us and not to Mormon culture.

“Ridicule works well in collaboration with confusion. To confuse youth in its searching years, the cynic defends his degeneracy by ridiculing his critics with confusing metaphors.”

He promotes liberal sites like NPR who in turn promote illegal immigration and the changing of America’s  demographics.

Here I think he was trying to say the right thing but his emotional, anti white, blind spot shows. He features a news story of a white man who was driving down the street, being pulled from his car by black people and beaten severely while they yelled racist, anti white remarks at him. James’ reaction to this story is “no side is innocent.” Really? What exactly did this man who was beaten do? I would honestly like to know how he was NOT innocent.

In addition he promotes Shaun King, shown in the tweet above. Shaun King is a white man who pretends to be black, who promotes the terrorist organization Black Lives Matter who are responsible for multiple attacks on whites around the country, for rioting, theft, and vandalism and for actually killing police officers. After a Mormon rap concert do you want your child going on James’ Twitter and being exposed to Shaun King tweets and ideologies that promote the killing of police?

At this point I had scrolled through his Twitter only a few months worth and I had had enough. It’s not that I don’t think that James is a faithful member of the church with the best intentions, he probably is, but the problem is he promotes degeneracy of western values, morals and culture. And why not? James, like most of us, was raised in an education system and culture which told us all cultures are valuable. Thug, ghetto, rap culture is held up as being perfectly equal with white, suburban culture. We are told there is no difference and to see a difference is racist but I’m sorry there IS a difference!

“The philosophy of relativism attacks the eternal principles of truth. The relativist will say, ‘If one sees filthy implications in a popular song, it is because he has a dirty mind.’ The logic of this philosophy finds its fallacy in the word implications. No filth is implied in many of the lyrics. It is proclaimed.”

Equality of cultures is a false God. What Beyoncé raps about is not morally equal to Amy Grant or Taylor Swift. Black Lives Matter isn’t just a group of black people with liberal opinions, it is a violent, terrorist organization who have carried out violent acts of murder. Modesty is better than immodesty, it simply is. Attacking the president personally and not on policy is not how civilized people behave.

All things are not equal and the culture and values promoted by James the Mormon do not reflect what is best for Mormon youth. He should not be given promotion within our homes or church.

“Yes, ‘There comes a time when the general defilement of a society becomes so great that the rising generation is put under undue pressure and cannot be said to have a fair choice between the Way of Light and the Way of Darkness.’

God grant that we as parents and leaders of youth may have the power and the good common sense to give them “a fair choice,” I humbly pray in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.”

25 thoughts on “Mormon “Rap” and the Destruction of White, Western, Mormon Culture

  1. Why am I not surprised that this so-called Mormon rapper who magically appeared out of nowhere over the last year and now is one of the most popular LDS performers is a leftist promoting poz and degeneracy? One of the big problems we face in the Mormon community is Mormons are far too willing to instantly support anybody who is affiliated with our church for any reason at all. Cultural Marxists have been working extra hard to destroy the LDS faith ever since Prop 8. It looks to me like (((they))) promoted James the Mormon as a way to getting LDS youth interested in poz, SJW’ism and Cultural Marxism.

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    • Yes, I agree, ever since Prop 8 there’s been a targeted assault against the traditional values of the church. People who were children then are young adults now and are destructively tearing down the fabric of Mormon culture piece by piece. It’s really hard to watch.

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  2. Thank you! I didn’t feel right about this guy but couldn’t put it into words.
    He’s one more pawn that is trying to promote the war on “Mormon Culture”, as if Mormon culture is not something faithful LDS people should be proud of.

    This is what president Benson had to say about religious Rock music, and it applies perfectly “Mormon rap” too:
    “And now a music scholar points to “a new direction in the rock-drug culture [which is] hailed by many ministers and the music industry as a silver lining in the clouds of gold. Religious rock is climbing up the ‘Top Ten’ charts. The growing resistance to the rock-drug scene is being diverted by this wholesome-appearing retreat from the new morality. But a review of religious rock materials unmasks an insidiously disguised anti-Christ. By reducing revealed religion to mythology, rock assumes the mantle of righteousness while rejecting the reality of sin. Without sin the new morality can continue in its Godless revel behind the pretense of religious robes. By reversing the roles of Jesus and Judas, one fast-selling album fits perfectly the warning of Isaiah [Isa. 5:20]: ‘Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness.’”

    And to close the argument:
    “Satan knows that music hath charms to soothe or stir the savage beast. That music has power to create atmosphere has been known before the beginning of Hollywood. Atmosphere creates environment, and environment influences behavior—the behavior of Babylon or of Enoch.”
    Richard Nibley

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  3. I can see you are being honest in your assessment. (I don’t personally agree with your assessment, which I could get into, but won’t at the moment.) But why the need for “white” and “Western” in the title. Why is that an important distinction to you?

    Why not just say “Mormon” culture?

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  4. Actual words from James the Rapper’s blog:

    Through nothing short of Heavenly Father’s love, empathetic people were put in my life and did two things. 1) They loved me for who and where I was, and 2) they shared their testimony of their experience with trials and beauty of the Atonement. It was only this approach that allowed my heart to soften and be receptive to the spirit. Eventually leading me to my own testimony and desire to use the atonement, change, and eventually go on a mission.

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    • I appreciate the quote but it has nothing to do with my blog, I said I think James is sincere in his faith, I never questioned his faith or character. I was simply pointing out beliefs he holds that are incompatible with how many in the church have been counseled by Prophets and apostles to live.

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      • You misrepresented his tweets to fit your narrative. He quoted Beyoncé saying women run the world as he was showing appreciation on National Women’s Day. The modesty posts were about not shaming others and were in response to a specific incident. The video with the white guy getting beat up was to show that black people are in the wrong too. It’s wrong for either race to attack the other. It wasn’t saying the guy getting beat up was wrong. His video has a good message and promotes family and friendship. The haka was represented in the video. A site about New Zealand describes the haka as:

        “The haka is a type of ancient Māori war dance traditionally used on the battlefield, as well as when groups came together in peace. Haka are a fierce display of a tribe’s pride, strength and unity. Actions include violent foot-stamping, tongue protrusions and rhythmic body slapping to accompany a loud chant.”

        Your assessment is based on race and not content. Although it may be against your personal beliefs, it is not against the teaching of The Church.

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  5. I fully support and agree with what you wrote . We should resist this with everything we have. They are cultural termites and will
    Destroy everything in their path !!

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  6. I misjudge people often at first, and usually I find they’re really quite wonderful. Thank goodness I can say sorry and give them the benefit of the doubt next time thanks to Jesus Christ! We are all trying our best with the knowledge we have based on our unique personal experiences. And fortunately life isn’t over yet so there may yet be lessons to learn for all of us (like not to give people we don’t know such a hard time). I’m sure you’ve had a hard time with this, and I’m sorry.

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    • No, I did not. I simply posted screen shots of his Twitter and his rap videos and pointed out how patents might be concerned with having him influence their children. I even stated that that I was sure James is sincerely Mormon. It is YOU and the hysterical people like you, who, desperate to “fight” an enemy have attempted to literally destroy me and my family because I don’t think James’ lifestyle is in harmony with what the gospel teaches. I set out facts and backed them up with citations, all you people have done is blasted me with ad hominem, tried to hack my personal accounts and threatened to rape me and kill my children. You should all be ashamed! God has witnessed every hatred of your heart and He knows I have none in mine for James or anyone one else.

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      • K. Whatever. I shouldn’t have even clicked on your site in the first place. There are dark and ugly paths on which I have no business treading. I have watched people who stand solidly against the malicious smug and willfully ignorant ideologies that you and others like you choose to embrace lower themselves to mudwrestling over such blatant nonsense. You seem to be a relatively articulate girl. What a shame to waste what could be genuine talent on such self serving and ugly balderdash.

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  7. I believe James sees clear benefits or a boost to his popularity because of what he does and how he acts. Perhaps he mentally separates his rapper-“job” and “home-life” and then can justify his behavior in this, because that’s how he earns money. Ah, the influence of the almighty dollar.

    He does seem to strike a chord with a portion of the youth of today (LDS and non-LDS alike); he’s cool, so why not? He fits in with the Millennials perfectly, becoming a voice for them and an expression of how they feel with a counter-culture slant.

    With mostly positive feedback, I believe he will continue to “feed the beast” and reap the rewards, so to speak. The sad part of this, is that the older generation hasn’t really looked past the surface on him (“Is he Mormon? Cool, invite him over. Have him speak. Have him sing. It will be a great boost to the youth and activity for our ward/stake/mission, etc.”).

    A thought comes to mind: Never do the Lord’s work with Satan’s tactics. Never give in to that temptation, even if it is easier. I may be labeled old-fashioned, but wrong is wrong, no matter how enticing and popular it is. God does not lick his finger to test the winds of popular opinion before giving a commandment or sharing with us how to act and behave, and so neither will I.

    I appreciate you pointing out differences between what Mormons typically believe (and outwardly demonstrate) compared to how you see James and his public persona.

    Maybe a little odd, but since this is a religious blog/post — Romans 1:16.

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  8. Gordon B. Hinckley said ” I remind you that no man who makes disparaging remarks concerning those of another race can consider himself a true disciple of Christ. Nor can he consider himself to be in harmony with the teachings of the Church of Christ.” (The Need For Greater Kindness, April ’06)

    Please remind yourself of these words the next time you tweet or blog something unkind.

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    • I didn’t disparage an entire race, I disparaged black ghetto rap culture, not all blacks. You, and people like you, who are baring false witness against me do not escape God’s knowledge. You should think about that and reevaluate your behavior.

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      • You are disparaging someone of another race because of their culture. You’re attacking rap culture, equating it to black culture, and then equating that to a black mormon rapper.

        It’s not my behavior and I bear no false witness. I love this church. It has done so much and has taught me to love my neighbor as they are. It has blessed me through out my life and for that I am grateful. When the prophet himself tells us that attacking others because of race make us less of a disciple of Christ then I believe him. We will both be judged at the last day on our actions. Just remember that when it comes time to greet Christ during the Second Coming.

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      • Your entire first sentence is not what I said but a misinterpretation of my words, you’re twisting what I said to fit some agenda YOU have. That’s false witness. Take responsibility for yourself.

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  9. Dear NordicSunrise,
    I appreciate your vigilance in protecting the rising LDS generation of kids. The diverse perspectives of thought within the church are opportunities for each of us to learn from one another. Thank you for watching out for my daughter and my friends’ kids and raising this red flag. After all, it takes a village to raise a child.
    I think you and I can agree that diversity is a good thing in some aspects, and bad in others. We’d never want people who believe in promiscuity or gun violence teaching those things to our children in Sunday School. On the other hand, we celebrate the diverse range of experiences and ideas given to us by the seventies from all over the world in General Conference.
    As I was reading through your post, there were some things that I disagreed with. I argue that we can take the good, common ground from James’s life and experience, and his obvious desire to connect to the values and people of Mormonism, and allow our children to appreciate them. I believe we can teach our children to cherish these things and be aware of the parts of James’s background that may contain inappropriate content.

    Allow me to give one example. James is obviously a fan of Beyoncé and celebrates her accomplishment along with a recognition of the value of women. You and i can agree with him about the incredible value of women. Maybe we don’t agree with everything Beyoncé does, and maybe we don’t want our children listening to Beyoncé, but James isn’t retweeting her lyrics, and I think that’s significant. The way I see it, he’s taking something from his background (Beyoncé) and celebrating something we revere in Mormonism (women). This can help connect others who love Beyoncé with the values of the restored gospel, and allow James to celebrate his newfound values in an authentic, meaningful manner.
    I worry that if we continue to focus on the parts of James’s work that we disagree with, we run the risk of isolating him and those who admire his work. We may even send a message that Mormonism and white suburban culture are mutually inclusive, which is certainly not the case.
    Instead, let us send the same message Pres. Uchtdorf sent in 2015 with his conference talk:

    “Some might say, “I just don’t fit in with you people in the Church.”

    If you could see into our hearts, you would probably find that you fit in better than you suppose. You might be surprised to find that we have yearnings and struggles and hopes similar to yours. Your background or upbringing might seem different from what you perceive in many Latter-day Saints, but that could be a blessing. Brothers and sisters, dear friends, we need your unique talents and perspectives. The diversity of persons and peoples all around the globe is a strength of this Church.”

    Let our kids learn from James and his diversity. Embrace the good, don’t seek out the bad.
    And thank you for your thoughtful post and vigilance.

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